lunarblue21: daeva-agas: lunarblue21: daeva-agas: lunarblue21: daeva-agas: lunarblue21: daeva-agas: lunarblue21: Heh, I do love AU Korrlok fics XD I have written loads of them haha. And true, there isn’t really any time like that, but given that it’s kind of the 20s in Korra I have this idea that maybe no one (except possibly Tenzin) would be too hard on them, but ugh it’s not fair how May December relationships always carry this blight of one person either being a “pedophile” (think Lolita) or a girl always out for the older man’s money. Hehe, though, honestly one of my real life OTPs is the real life May December Romance between Michael Douglas and Catherine Zeta-Jones (crap…. ooops hmmm so that’s why those two names are conveniently in my Beauseant novel just so…) it’s just so sweet and adorable!  And I will still continue to curse Bryke because that boat scene has a LOT of unfortunate implications with it, especially the message that if you can’t escape your past it’s better to just kill yourself and even now just thinking of it makes me sad and angry ugggh.  But I at least won’t curse them because even though the show turned out horribly, there’s lots of ripe opportunities for AU Korrlok fics where they can happily be together as a couple!!! :D  I’m the kind of person who is very big on redemption, so that suicide did not make me happy. I mean, if Zuko can redeem himself, then why not Tarrlok and Noatak? I daresay what Tarllok went through is almost similar to what Zuko went through when he went and did a heel-face-turn. At the very least, Tarrlok could’ve made it through if someone was there to support him. But NOPE. Boom happens. And Bryke, did you realize there’s a rather racist undertone here? I agree, the suicide did not sit well with me either because of that, since I’m a person very big on redemption as well and so that scene still makes me see red since Tarrlok clearly looked like he was going to embark on a new life given his character development and since Zuko got one, and so I’m still angry/upset over that scene several months later.  And Bryke, did you realize there’s a rather racist undertone here? I have a good idea of what you mean by this comment but could you please clarify it a bit more? :)  It still ties in with the Zuko issue. Zuko = bad pale person —> Redemption Tarrlok & Noatak = bad dark-skinned people —> Boom! Murder-suicide! Dead! And if you count in Azula… Sexism. Azula = bad pale woman —> went psycho (presumably thrown to jail and left to rot there) Some people are going to tell me I look too much into things, but since I started reading Racebending’s stuff, I cannot unsee the unfortunate implications anymore >____< Oh god that’s what I was speculating you meant!!! DX  And I follow Racebending too and ugh those unfortunate implications just make their treatment of Azula and Tarrlok and Noatak’s grossly unfair end even worse. >____<  Where did you find the Racebending articles on these issues?  Oh no no, I meant that ever since I began reading Racebending’s stuff, I became hyper-aware of unfortunate implications and I cannot ignore them anymore whenever I see them.  I’m sorry for confusing you. I’m severely lacking sleep @___@ Oh that’s okay :)  I follow Racebending too so my question was more asking which posts highlighted those issues. Racebending’s a good resource to follow - I first saw them because o writingfail.  Now I can’t unsee those unfortunate implications either and it makes me so mad and upset at Bryke. For one thing, basically condoning SUICIDE in the finale is just so wrong in the emotional climate worldwide at present with the cyberbullying common here on tumblr and elsewhere and the fact that many young people struggle with depression so that only compounds it I think.  And then the realisation with how Zuko gets redemption but the darker-skinned (and in my opinion MUCH MORE HOTTER - cause everyone in the Water Tribes makes everyone else look bad) men of the Water Tribe go BOOM is just completely out of the line and recognising how racist it actually is in a way makes it worse.  CURSE BRYKE gaaah THINK OF WHAT YOU’RE SAYING BEFORE YOU DO THINGS!!!  A:TLA’s art style has a more round-ish face shape, making them all look poofy and round. LOK’s people had a more oval, elongated face structure. Think Naruto VS Bleach in art style. Since I find long, narrow faces more hot, of course the Tarrlok and Noatak are hotter! Also, older guys = YES. Zuko as per A:TLA is younger than me. Not cool. Ahem. Anyways. The suicide is totally uncalled for. It’s one thing if Korra or the police or a freaking MOB killed them. Suicide? WHY? Like you said, the suicide rates in these days are already high enough without a kid’s show telling everyone that if life really sucks and you find everything hopeless, just go kill yourself. There wasn’t even ANYONE saying “It shouldn’t be this way! This is wrong!” The suicide would be far less horrible if, say, Korra was upset they did that. If she said that death is not the solution and that she, as the Avatar, could make it better for everyone. Or Tenzin, saying that Aang wouldn’t have blamed them for it or whatever.  With nobody expressing regret over the deaths, it just shows that their death is a good thing. It’s a victory over evil or something. BAD BRYKE, BAD!!! BAD!!! I have no comments other than that you’ve perfectly expressed my reasons for my love for Tarrlok (and in ATLA I always preferred SOKKA over Zuko because Sokka is funny and he’s handsome and he grows and he makes me laugh) and why the suicide scene in the finale was just so wrong. And it is wrong…. any death is.  The suicide is totally uncalled for. It’s one thing if Korra or the police or a freaking MOB killed them. Suicide? WHY? Like you said, the suicide rates in these days are already high enough without a kid’s show telling everyone that if life really sucks and you find everything hopeless, just go kill yourself. There wasn’t even ANYONE saying “It shouldn’t be this way! This is wrong!” The suicide would be far less horrible if, say, Korra was upset they did that. If she said that death is not the solution and that she, as the Avatar, could make it better for everyone. Or Tenzin, saying that Aang wouldn’t have blamed them for it or whatever.  With nobody expressing regret over the deaths, it just shows that their death is a good thing. It’s a victory over evil or something. Oh man that is exactly it!!  And oh man Aang would have forgiven them and told them that it was wrong to throw away their chance to begin again. Sure, it would have been a hell of struggle for both Tarrlok and Noatak with the shade of their father hanging over them, but with Korra’s help they could probably move forward.  AGJKJFLGDFLGADFLGAFAGLDFL  WASTED POTENTIAL  ANGER AT BRYKE RETURNING FULL-STEAM
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Heh, I do love AU Korrlok fics XD I have written loads of them haha. And true, there isn’t really any time like that, but given that it’s kind of the 20s in Korra I have this idea that maybe no one (except possibly Tenzin) would be too hard on them, but ugh it’s not fair how May December relationships always carry this blight of one person either being a “pedophile” (think Lolita) or a girl always out for the older man’s money. Hehe, though, honestly one of my real life OTPs is the real life May December Romance between Michael Douglas and Catherine Zeta-Jones (crap…. ooops hmmm so that’s why those two names are conveniently in my Beauseant novel just so…) it’s just so sweet and adorable! 

And I will still continue to curse Bryke because that boat scene has a LOT of unfortunate implications with it, especially the message that if you can’t escape your past it’s better to just kill yourself and even now just thinking of it makes me sad and angry ugggh. 

But I at least won’t curse them because even though the show turned out horribly, there’s lots of ripe opportunities for AU Korrlok fics where they can happily be together as a couple!!! :D 

I’m the kind of person who is very big on redemption, so that suicide did not make me happy.

I mean, if Zuko can redeem himself, then why not Tarrlok and Noatak? I daresay what Tarllok went through is almost similar to what Zuko went through when he went and did a heel-face-turn. At the very least, Tarrlok could’ve made it through if someone was there to support him.

But NOPE. Boom happens.

And Bryke, did you realize there’s a rather racist undertone here?

I agree, the suicide did not sit well with me either because of that, since I’m a person very big on redemption as well and so that scene still makes me see red since Tarrlok clearly looked like he was going to embark on a new life given his character development and since Zuko got one, and so I’m still angry/upset over that scene several months later. 

And Bryke, did you realize there’s a rather racist undertone here?

I have a good idea of what you mean by this comment but could you please clarify it a bit more? :) 

It still ties in with the Zuko issue.

Zuko = bad pale person —> Redemption

Tarrlok & Noatak = bad dark-skinned people —> Boom! Murder-suicide! Dead!

And if you count in Azula… Sexism.

Azula = bad pale woman —> went psycho (presumably thrown to jail and left to rot there)

Some people are going to tell me I look too much into things, but since I started reading Racebending’s stuff, I cannot unsee the unfortunate implications anymore >____<

Oh god that’s what I was speculating you meant!!! DX 

And I follow Racebending too and ugh those unfortunate implications just make their treatment of Azula and Tarrlok and Noatak’s grossly unfair end even worse. >____< 

Where did you find the Racebending articles on these issues? 

Oh no no, I meant that ever since I began reading Racebending’s stuff, I became hyper-aware of unfortunate implications and I cannot ignore them anymore whenever I see them. 

I’m sorry for confusing you. I’m severely lacking sleep @___@

Oh that’s okay :) 

I follow Racebending too so my question was more asking which posts highlighted those issues. Racebending’s a good resource to follow - I first saw them because o writingfail. 

Now I can’t unsee those unfortunate implications either and it makes me so mad and upset at Bryke. For one thing, basically condoning SUICIDE in the finale is just so wrong in the emotional climate worldwide at present with the cyberbullying common here on tumblr and elsewhere and the fact that many young people struggle with depression so that only compounds it I think. 

And then the realisation with how Zuko gets redemption but the darker-skinned (and in my opinion MUCH MORE HOTTER - cause everyone in the Water Tribes makes everyone else look bad) men of the Water Tribe go BOOM is just completely out of the line and recognising how racist it actually is in a way makes it worse. 

CURSE BRYKE gaaah THINK OF WHAT YOU’RE SAYING BEFORE YOU DO THINGS!!! 

A:TLA’s art style has a more round-ish face shape, making them all look poofy and round. LOK’s people had a more oval, elongated face structure. Think Naruto VS Bleach in art style. Since I find long, narrow faces more hot, of course the Tarrlok and Noatak are hotter! Also, older guys = YES. Zuko as per A:TLA is younger than me. Not cool.

Ahem. Anyways.

The suicide is totally uncalled for. It’s one thing if Korra or the police or a freaking MOB killed them. Suicide? WHY? Like you said, the suicide rates in these days are already high enough without a kid’s show telling everyone that if life really sucks and you find everything hopeless, just go kill yourself. There wasn’t even ANYONE saying “It shouldn’t be this way! This is wrong!”

The suicide would be far less horrible if, say, Korra was upset they did that. If she said that death is not the solution and that she, as the Avatar, could make it better for everyone. Or Tenzin, saying that Aang wouldn’t have blamed them for it or whatever. 

With nobody expressing regret over the deaths, it just shows that their death is a good thing. It’s a victory over evil or something.

BAD BRYKE, BAD!!! BAD!!!

I have no comments other than that you’ve perfectly expressed my reasons for my love for Tarrlok (and in ATLA I always preferred SOKKA over Zuko because Sokka is funny and he’s handsome and he grows and he makes me laugh) and why the suicide scene in the finale was just so wrong. And it is wrong…. any death is. 

The suicide is totally uncalled for. It’s one thing if Korra or the police or a freaking MOB killed them. Suicide? WHY? Like you said, the suicide rates in these days are already high enough without a kid’s show telling everyone that if life really sucks and you find everything hopeless, just go kill yourself. There wasn’t even ANYONE saying “It shouldn’t be this way! This is wrong!”

The suicide would be far less horrible if, say, Korra was upset they did that. If she said that death is not the solution and that she, as the Avatar, could make it better for everyone. Or Tenzin, saying that Aang wouldn’t have blamed them for it or whatever. 

With nobody expressing regret over the deaths, it just shows that their death is a good thing. It’s a victory over evil or something.

Oh man that is exactly it!! 

And oh man Aang would have forgiven them and told them that it was wrong to throw away their chance to begin again. Sure, it would have been a hell of struggle for both Tarrlok and Noatak with the shade of their father hanging over them, but with Korra’s help they could probably move forward. 

AGJKJFLGDFLGADFLGAFAGLDFL 

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the library (of fun): Amon and Tarrlok sob story.

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One of the biggest complain about LoK finale is Amon’s backstory, personally I think that not only ruined Amon character but also Tarrlok and Yakone. I will write my mains problems with their backstory and why I think it was badly written.

Is contrived.

Yakone escaping prision, having a facial surgery, traveling to the NWT, meeting a woman and having two kids(Tarlok and Noatak) with her is contrived as fuck. Why don’t know how he escaped and the facial surgery crap is laughable bad.

It doesn’t explain anything

The only thing that it expains is how Amon and Tarrlok but that is, we still don’t know how they can use bloodbending without full moon.

Their backstory doesn’t expain anything about their motivations and personalities. I don’t know why Tarrlok became a corrupted politician, it doesn’t explain why Amon thinks that bending is “the source of all evil”. Is basically “you had a abusive father therefore you will became evil”, that is a load of shit, in the same show you have Asami, a character that doesn’t side with her father or became hateful and bitter with the world despite all the things that happens to her.

Compare it to Zuko backstory, it actually makes sense and doesn’t have plot-holes. Zuko was angry and bitter because he thought that life was unfair to him, his father didn’t loved him and burned his face, his mother was banished to help him, his sister was cruel to him and got all the praise. He desperately wanted his father approval and love, that is why he was searching the Avatar, that is why his honor was important for him. What was Tarrlok’s motivation? why he wanted control? why he wanted to oppress non-benders and use the Avatar? we just don’t know! take a sob story, feel sorry for him!!

Is cliche and shallow

I’m tired of the abusive father bull, is so hard to come with something more original?. And is pretty shallow, is just a story about and abusive father and a mother that didn’t do shit to help their kids, is obviously that Yakone was abusive. Ursa was banished to help Zuko, Yakone’s wife was there just to have babies.

Amon’s fake story was much more interesting,fresh and mature it was great because he was just a poor non-bender that became a charismatic and smart leader that knew what he wanted.

Azula was perfectionist,cruel and proud because she had attention issues. She thought that her mother loved Zuko more and she tried so hard to please her father, she wanted love and attention and that is what led to her breakdown. That is going deeper than just an abusive father sob story, it explains in a psychologically way, the personality and motivations of the characters.

It ruined the characters

Tarrlok and Amon were one of the most interesting character in the show, they didn’t need a sob story to made me care about them because they were interesting and active characters. Their cliche story ruined them.

Everything about how Amon was ruined has been said so I will not go in detail but making him a bender totally ruined him and killed my interest on him, also they made him weaked for no reason.

Tarrlok was ruined too, his story and personality as a kid were incredibly generic. He changed his mind so easily, he discovered that his brother was Amon so now he is not a douche, that is it? Is nice that he apologized and redeemed himself but it was just to quick and didn’t had a great impact. Zuko had to struggle,learn and define himself before changing sides, Tarrlok change was used as a plot device.

Yakone was interesting in the flashbacks and I really wanted to know more about him, he seemed smart and gray until he became your generic abusive father for no reason, then he was used as a plot device to “explain” why Tarrlok and Amon were evul.

It doesn’t resolve the non-bender conflict

Nothing to say. This was never was about Yakone and his sons, this was about the non-bender oppression. They just uncovered and then killed Amon and Tarrlok but the non-bending problems still exists. Their deaths didn’t resolve the conflict so their are completely useless, it only helps to make us feel sorry for them.

Sorry for the bad english, is not my native language >__> maybe I will write something about Hiroshi next.

the library (of fun): Why I have an issue with murder-suicide on a children's Saturday morning show

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That really should not have been there.

People can call it “edgy” and “brave” all they want, but the way I see it? That was irresponsible.

I am not saying that Bryan Konietzko and Michael DiMartino or anyone should refrain from talking about suicide because I know how important it is to reveal the issue that is currently plaguing our society. Suicide is something that should not be covered up or hidden; it should be openly discussed and prevented.

However, the way it was potrayed in the finale of the Legend of Korra was not only tragic, but it was problematic. They portrayed the murder-suicide of Tarrlok and Noatok as something noble and maybe even necessary. There was no one to try and prevent them and there was no one to mourn for them, further implying that they had to kill themselves because they would not be missed.

For those of you who believe I am overreacting, I have a perfectly good reason to be worried about this. When one simply puts suicide up on display like this, they are giving emotionally unstable people ideas and thoughts. When one shows suicide scene like this, they have to be very careful with it or else they’ll send the wrong message. Whoever believed it was okay to put in this murder-suicide scene was extremely careless. This can have catastrophic and real effects on children and teenagers who may already be thinking of taking their own lives.

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atla-annotated: millionfish: Finally finished one of the comics originally intended for my Redemption Island post. Just a friendly reminder that Dee Bradley Baker who voiced Tarrlok also voiced my favorite side character ever, Chong the nomad. Yes, I don’t normally reblog off-topic stuff, but come on, did you know they were voiced by the same person? Also, this fall under the golden rule of: If it makes me cackle for 20 min. straight, I will reblog it!
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Finally finished one of the comics originally intended for my Redemption Island post.

Just a friendly reminder that Dee Bradley Baker who voiced Tarrlok also voiced my favorite side character ever, Chong the nomad.

Yes, I don’t normally reblog off-topic stuff, but come on, did you know they were voiced by the same person? Also, this fall under the golden rule of: If it makes me cackle for 20 min. straight, I will reblog it!

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driftlaughingalonewithships: blurryobjects: So, I said I wanted that reunion… therefore, the boat never explodes! Tarrlok’s all like, “Well, I don’t know about starting over with a whole new life, bro, but fixing up that old one we used to have sounds possible.” And then they tell each other bad jokes for the rest of their journey. And after mom stops crying, she bursts out with: “Now where are my grand-children!” And they’re like uhhhhh We’ll get on that /DYING WHALE NOISES UGH OH MY GOD I CANT EVEN HANDLE THIS /LAYS DOWN ON THE FLOOR AND DOESNT GET BACK UP
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driftlaughingalonewithships: blurryobjects: So, I said I wanted that reunion… therefore, the boat never explodes! Tarrlok’s all like, “Well, I don’t know about starting over with a whole new life, bro, but fixing up that old one we used to have sounds possible.” And then they tell each other bad jokes for the rest of their journey. And after mom stops crying, she bursts out with: “Now where are my grand-children!” And they’re like uhhhhh We’ll get on that /DYING WHALE NOISES UGH OH MY GOD I CANT EVEN HANDLE THIS /LAYS DOWN ON THE FLOOR AND DOESNT GET BACK UP
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So, I said I wanted that reunion… therefore, the boat never explodes! Tarrlok’s all like, “Well, I don’t know about starting over with a whole new life, bro, but fixing up that old one we used to have sounds possible.” And then they tell each other bad jokes for the rest of their journey.

And after mom stops crying, she bursts out with: “Now where are my grand-children!”

And they’re like uhhhhh

We’ll get on that

/DYING WHALE NOISES

UGH OH MY GOD I CANT EVEN HANDLE THIS

/LAYS DOWN ON THE FLOOR AND DOESNT GET BACK UP

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